Wages of sin

It never fails to annoy me when the self-righteous (religious) folk attribute misfortunes and disasters on people’s behaviour. It is something these folk do, without fail, each and every time that chance happens to wreak some trouble.

They were quick at it when the Asian tsunami in 2004 killed, injured, destroyed and disrupted the lives of thousands upon thousands of people. According to these enlightened folk who take it upon themselves to deliver this holy message, the tsunami was no accidental natural disaster – it was a divine punishment delivering a mighty blow to all those who sinned! Apparently, the Indonesians got it because they had gotten too barbaric, the Sri Lankans and Indians deserved what they got because they were polytheistic infidels and well, Maldives got it because people were shooting up heroin and being a tad bit too shag-friendly…

These claims fall under a type of logical fallacies known as a non sequitur. Humanity has subscribed to such crazy cause-effect relations since the dawn of time. Almost always, a deity sprung up to handle the task of managing and delivering some “punishment” when the people committed some random “sin”. The Aztecs, for example, believed in a god called Tlaloc who was responsible for floods and droughts. The Aztecs appeased Tlaloc by sacrificing children. Any modern person would see the utter lack of a relationship between child sacrifice and the occurrence of floods and droughts. Similarly, any sane person would (or rather should!) realize that there is absolutely no causal link between mundane human actions and droughts, floods or whatever the choice of natural disaster or misfortune one may imagine up. The physical universe isn’t dependant on human (im)moral behaviour anymore than it is dependent on the whims and wishes of individual humans.

What is sad, or rather disturbing, is that these claims still run amok whenever disaster strikes – like the wave-flooding in the islands that Maldives is facing right now. The self appointed messiahs have the arrogance and the audacity to tell the suffering that it is all directly because of their bad behaviour: divine retribution (especially?) for those who are wavering on their true path. I tell you, the sheer depravity of preying on people’s misfortunes is just downright appalling…

Note: This post was inspired by the article titled “Gudhrathee haadhisaathakaa kurimathilaan jeheynee eemantherikamaaeku“ (local copy here) found on Adhaalathu Party’s website.

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  1. hn says:

    Appalling it is.

  2. A says:

    That theodicy is an attempt to save Omni-'X'.

    An alternative thinking: such 'natural' disasters may be caused by the 'free will' of the 'fallen angels'. That theodicy is also an attempt to save Omni-'X'.

    It amazes me some otherwise great thinkers even try to save Omni-'X' by appealing to such far-fetched theodecies.

  3. parardox says:

    true true!! instead trying to find a solution or remedy to the unfortunate people just start blaming each other

  4. Jambola says:

    They do have a point you know..Drugs, gang fights and robberies are a nuisance. I would personally try and scare people into getting rid of these things, if people will believe me.

  5. jaa says:

    Counter nuisance with intimidation?

  6. Simon says:

    From time immemorial humans have always associated natural disasters with Gods or some form of supernatural entity. And sacrifices of humans and or animals to appease to these entities have even lasted to this very day in one form or another. And we go a step further because we're brought up not to question in any case. No siree.

    It is possibly difficult for us people NOT to associate our sinful ways with natural disasters because that's how we've been brought up to think - that God will punish us one way or another. So these fanatical religious parties abuse that state of ignorance to the fullest. You'd be surprised as to how many people will believe that crap. Most will believe it because they're too afraid NOT to believe.

  7. Abdullah says:

    Dear sir, may I ask you what is your religion? I think you are an atheist. Do you really think life began accidentally? When some chemical reactions accidentaly created a living cell?

    I believe in Allah, the Lord of all worlds, the Sustainer.

    Do you know your position now? If you were a muslim before than you are amongst the fashiqun and munaafiqun.

    Come to your senses Sir. After you die people are going to put you in a grave. You will return to your creator..

    please take some of your time to watch these videos...

    Darkside of darwinism
    http://www.harunyahya.com/download/download.php?id=28772

    Allah is known through reason.
    http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_detail.php?api_id=1069

  8. jaa says:

    Dear sir,
    I remain baffled as to how you connect this post with evolution (or Darwinism as you call it)... This has absolutely NOTHING to do evolutionary thought!

    But now that you do bring up Darwinism, I suggest you stop watching the non-science/psuedo-science babble of Harun Yahya and pick up a REAL book on science and evolution. Your understanding of it is, just simply, wrong :-)

  9. al says:

    "These claims fall under a type of logical fallacies known as a non sequitur. "
    What, i feel, that you are trying to point here is that such events as the stunami are natural events. Ofcourse they are. An what is natural? Its like we are all in a movie. A movie is written and the creator knows everything that will happen in the movie. Even if the actors do or say mean things towards the creator, its all written in the script. Everything that im writing here, its all been written.(we wudnt know when). COncepts and ideas are formed by humans. The quran came from god. God has revealed in the quran of such incidents in the past. Those events were as natural as any other. But god has revealed that they are punishments. Think, my friend.

  10. a says:

    Al: That is very good. The Creator then saw this film beforehand and let it be 'unfolded' before us. Very great game, nice film that is. I like my part too.

    Abdullah: Whether or not Darwinism is true, you don't have a case, your case miserably fails. But please read (if you haven’t) some basics of evolution by natural selection. It is NOT accidental.

  11. Rilwan says:

    lol! jambula! if u think the gang fighters and drug addicts blve all this crap by the religious mollahs then ur wrong my deer! u personally shall try to find a new method to scare them!

    I wish the tsunami split ups and hit the sinners houses according to the sins they have committed mathematically! That sure would be fair enough!

  12. Simon says:

    Al so the point of your comment is irrelevant, no?

  13. Bluemeanies says:

    Its the nature of most of the people to always believe in somthing, than not to believe in anything.

  14. al says:

    I dont belive that the so called "self-righteous (religious) folks" are "preying on people’s misfortunes" when they are practicing their right of freedom of expression based on their level of knowledge of islam, which i dont belive any one of us has.
    And since jaa claim these folks as "self-righteous" it showed how pissed he is with them. I dont really understand why we hav to hate them while we dont have enough knowledge of islam to claim their doings as appaling. And while their practice is not based on human ideologies, but divine truth ,i still feel that these folks have the upperhand.

  15. a says:

    Al: What is divine truth -- you mean to say faith?

  16. jaa says:

    Al:Some of us haven't shut down our individual critical thought faculties you know? You take it for granted that anything expressed in the name of "divine" authority as absolutely infallible. I challenge that.

    All expressions stem from humans - and humans are fallible to error.

  17. nass says:

    hmm... this is interesting :-)

  18. al says:

    nass, yes i belive it has become. hehe
    jaa, no hard feelings. i didnt mean to start anything here. lol
    thank u for ur replies.

  19. transitions says:

    al: no offense but sounds like you are truly brainwashed by the sayings your parents and misguided teachers taught you while you were young.
    Isn't it sad that everyone assumes their level of knowledge about islam always surpasses the others' so they are right
    when do you become educated on islam? when you go to the middleeast and become a seikh?

  20. al says:

    The power of our minds will never surpass the capacity that its creator has put, no matter how smart we may think we are.

  21. jambola says:

    good good. All the atheists personally attacking a guy for expressing his point of view.
    Nothing new here. Atheism is the new rebel religion. And who is the fanatics?. You guys ripping apart people believing in religion and god. sounds very fanatical to me. There can be atheist fanatics as well as religious fanatics. and you guys are the latter.

  22. jaa says:

    "do unto them what they do to the rest of humanity."

    jambola: could you kindly define what a religion is... :-)

  23. jambola says:

    "do unto them what they do to humanity."
    What the f***?

    It really doesn't matter what the definition of religion is.
    History has given many examples of murderous atheists when you say religion encourages murder.
    you lot tear apart a guy for his views when you cry out for freedom of expression.
    Religion can't be made as an escape goat for all our ills.
    If in a society the majority are atheists we could easily say the problems within the society are due to atheism.

    you may as well set the description of your blog as "Jaa's Digital Playground and Atheist Propaganda blog".

  24. jaa says:

    "do unto..." is one notion that resonates through every religion... And one that resonates through most ideologies. I was suggesting that that's what people do... fanatics or not, on all sides alike. To each, it justifies totally what they do. Like it justifies to you your position on these matters. It is inherent in religions that it be actively preached, spread and often be forced on others through military conquest. To most fervent in religious belief, disagreement or difference is unacceptable. It is not allowed to question or challenge something said in the name of religion... which paves the way for making exactly the sort of unwarranted declarations as mentioned my post above. I am not promoting atheism or blaming religion for all our ills. I take my blog to voice out my thoughts and some of them can be a bit err.. unconventional, but only unconventional with respect to the closed, lip-zipped society Maldives has been. I am aware doing this is something that does mightily offend some people.

    I assume you like being in a protected cocoon where you say something and everyone else nods their head politely. Tearing apart a guy's views is what discussion is mostly about. Arguments are taken, dissected and challenged - freedom of expression entails that. Comments here on my blog are visitors sharing and expressing their thoughts - noone is at each other's throat and I assume people say what they say with due respect for each other - afterall, it certainly is not an opportunity we get in Maldives.

  25. jambola says:

    Your perception of religion is based on what you probably have experienced in Maldives ( ruled in my opinion by a not so religious clan that use religion to hold tight their clasp on power ) and what you see happening in many parts of the Muslim world today.

    Muslims are in a very meager state and have lost any glory they had.
    Instead of blaming the religion I would blame the people for not following the basic tenets of religion and not doing the good deeds it prescribes.

    Muslims have not been at this state throughout history, we were the most tolerant and civilized people two three centuries back. So is religion or more specifically Islam to blame?.

    You are reading too much Dawkins and in the process got yourself stuck in a web of delusion.

  26. jaa says:

    But good deeds, or atleast well intentioned deeds, based on people's understanding of religion are all that people do. Telling strife-stricken people that their misfortune has something to do with divine punishment was what I take issue with. Whether its people's own unjustifiable actions or religion mandated preachings... the act of doing so is not something that settles with me very well. I don't think I implicated religion as a whole in my post... I condemn the people and their actions.

    The Romans and the Greeks too had glory once. Mongols ruled with might and conquered much of the world under Genghis Khan. But that doesn't command their beliefs as superior or their actions any respect. Muslims, just like Christians, spent years conquering and forcing societies into their beliefs by offering a choice of death or submission. I doubt we can, atleast in modern moral perspectives, view this as civilised or tolerant.

    Yep, my reading too much and not just Dawkins's might be getting me a bit deluded ;-)

  27. jambola says:

    I should have put sarcasm tags around my first comment.
    What I truly believe is this.
    These self imposed imams have no way of knowing if the misfortune is divine punishment unless they are themselves divine.Since they are not they have no way of knowing.Misuse of religion loses peoples faith. But it is a recurrent cycle. There will always be people like that.Either Maumoon, Saibaba or Mirza Ahmed etc. etc.

  28. al says:

    "Muslims, just like Christians, spent years conquering and forcing societies into their beliefs by offering a choice of death or submission"
    I oppose to that sentence in particular. No prophet forced people to change, but offered guidance to them and civilised the societies. The people had the choice to accept their invitation or not. Muslims and non muslims lived side by side. This is the basis of how muslims are to follow. Misguided groups that went to such extent as to killing for not obeying does not reflect that of true muslims. In the western world whether you are sunni or shia, you are considered muslim. but that is not the case within muslim world. I hope this gave some insight.

  29. nass says:

    i donno why u ppl even bother to reply to all this. this is an article written by an atheist who doesn't understand what religion or God is. Leave him alone in his world. peace out.

  30. dfgdfgdfg says:

    Muslims have always brought with them an atmosphere of freedom and tolerance and destroyed unlawful practices wherever they have gone. They have enabled people whose religions, languages and cultures are completely different from one another to live together in peace and harmony under one roof, and provided peace and harmony for its own members. One of the most important reasons for the centuries-long existence of the Ottoman Empire, which spread over an enormous region, was the atmosphere of tolerance and understanding that Islam brought with it. Muslims, who have been known for their tolerant and loving natures for centuries, have always been the most compassionate and just of people. Within this multi-national structure, all ethnic groups have been free to live according to their own religions, and their own rules.


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